Thanks for the link Scott. Frank is not all right about the current crisis.. but I think he is mostly right.
I am pulling for President Obama and hope the recovery does not take as long as I think it will.. 5 years is a long time to have elevated unemployment levels.

So where do you think he is wrong?

I don’t think he’s wrong. I agree.

I believe Bush began this terrible downward spiral when he was “questionably” elected president of the United states.

A “supposed” born again Christian, Governor in Texas, he was asked asked to commute a death sentence to life imprisonment for Karla Faye Tucker. We should have seen the signs back then.

Tucker, indicted, in 1983, was tried, and convicted of murder. she, subsequently, during her 14 year punishment ordeal on death row, became a model prisoner and a Christian worker in bible workshops dedicated to the rehabilitation and conversion to Christianity of herself and her fellow inmates.

Conservative commentator Tucker Carlson, reports during interview with Bush, asked Bush what Karla Faye might have said to him if he’d agreed to meet with her. “‘Please,’” Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, “‘don’t kill me.’” I must have looked shocked — ridiculing the pleas of a condemned prisoner who has since been executed seems odd and cruel …”

A slip of the mask perhaps? Bush’s presidency revealed a cruelty, not the Christianity of a ‘born again Christian. President Obama now with the rest of us, 300 million or more, are left with war, a gutted American economy, a country up for sale to the highest bidder, sacrificed lives of our precious souls in the U.S. armed forces, and a country run by powerful pockets of American royalty who preside over virtual kingdoms within the borders of the United states.

Many thanks for posting this video of Frank Schaeffer: during interview. He clarifies what we need to understand about those, led now by Rush Limbaugh, who see the rest of us, who label, list and vilify, the majority of America’s 300 million citizens as “enemies!”

Thanks for the comment Lou!

To answer your question Scott.. I think that it is wrong to blame the GOP for all of our woes.. when Frank says..
“some 4000 of our killed military men and women would be alive; over to 35,000 wounded Americans would be whole”
..he forgets that the Dems endorsed Bush’s plan and even after they had the majority in congress did not cut off funding for the war.
So now tell me why you completely 100% agree with Frank.. I assume that you might since you wanted to know where I thought him wrong

But whose plan was it again? Sure the Dems that voted yay are responsible, but Bush was the one that pushed us into this.

So why do you 100% agree with Frank? Only fair since I answered your question

I don’t know that he’s 100% right. I think he engages in some hyperbole, but if you peal that back there’s a lot of truth. A big part of the problem gets back to the Religious Right allowing themselves to be use and at the same time using the Republican party.

By associating themselves with a specific political party they give everything that party does some degree of legitimacy or at the very least a stamp of approval. So what the Reps do is associated with Christianity for good or for ill. This is all in an effort to put forth an agenda that to me is only tangentially Christian at best.

In return the Republicans get a large block of guaranteed votes based on the notion that if you are a Christian you are in some sense obligated to vote for them. If you don’t you are voting for the “enemy”.

And then you get windbags like Rush who “represent” some contingent of the party and that further sullies the whole deal. Yes we have our own windbags on the left. I’m just saying that it seems odd for the Republicans to curry favor with both the Rushes and the Schaefers of the world.

I agree with you Scott. Of course I think that the religious left is alive and well but just not as much of a “news item” because their views are pretty secular mainstream American.