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	<title>Comments on: The Bible and Its Importance</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritualtramp.com/blog/2007/08/the-bible-and-its-importance/comment-page-1/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually since I&#039;m pretty convinced by his revelations and don&#039;t find them all that vague (difficult sometimes, but that&#039;s different) perhaps I&#039;m not the best person to ask?  And Christianity explains one possible reason.  The things that being a Christian leads you to believe (that you&#039;re not inherently &quot;good&quot;, that you will ultimately be judged and found wanting, etc) are things that some folk are strongly disinclined to believe.  And while you and I believe that creation itself is pretty good evidence of some sort of god there are certainly those that disagree.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually since I&#8217;m pretty convinced by his revelations and don&#8217;t find them all that vague (difficult sometimes, but that&#8217;s different) perhaps I&#8217;m not the best person to ask?  And Christianity explains one possible reason.  The things that being a Christian leads you to believe (that you&#8217;re not inherently &#8220;good&#8221;, that you will ultimately be judged and found wanting, etc) are things that some folk are strongly disinclined to believe.  And while you and I believe that creation itself is pretty good evidence of some sort of god there are certainly those that disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: sidfaiwu</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidfaiwu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Although the light of nature and the works of creation and providence manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, to such an extent that men are without excuse...&quot;
How positively deistic of them!
&quot;...yet they are not sufficient to give that knowledge of God and of his will which is necessary for salvation.&quot;
Oh, never mind ;)
&quot;Therefore it pleased the Lord, at various times and in diverse ways, to reveal himself and to declare his will to his church&quot;
If God is, indeed, good, wise, and powerful as providence suggests, then why are God&#039;s &lt;em&gt;special&lt;/em&gt; revelations so unconvincing and vague?  I mean Christianity only makes up 1/3 of the World&#039;s current population.  Furthermore Christians cannot &lt;em&gt;agree&lt;/em&gt; on what God was trying to reveal in the Bible.  Creation, on the other hand is utterly convincing, as stated in the Westminster Confession.  About 90% of the current World&#039;s population believe in some sort of Creator, but there is no majority consensus about the &lt;em&gt;nature&lt;/em&gt; of God.
I know, truth is not a popularity contest.  Majorities have been wrong before (see GWB), but based on the &lt;em&gt;Christian&lt;/em&gt; claims about God, one would think that He&#039;d be more convincing in his &#039;whole of revelation&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Although the light of nature and the works of creation and providence manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, to such an extent that men are without excuse&#8230;&#8221;<br />
How positively deistic of them!<br />
&#8220;&#8230;yet they are not sufficient to give that knowledge of God and of his will which is necessary for salvation.&#8221;<br />
Oh, never mind <img src='http://www.spiritualtramp.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8220;Therefore it pleased the Lord, at various times and in diverse ways, to reveal himself and to declare his will to his church&#8221;<br />
If God is, indeed, good, wise, and powerful as providence suggests, then why are God&#8217;s <em>special</em> revelations so unconvincing and vague?  I mean Christianity only makes up 1/3 of the World&#8217;s current population.  Furthermore Christians cannot <em>agree</em> on what God was trying to reveal in the Bible.  Creation, on the other hand is utterly convincing, as stated in the Westminster Confession.  About 90% of the current World&#8217;s population believe in some sort of Creator, but there is no majority consensus about the <em>nature</em> of God.<br />
I know, truth is not a popularity contest.  Majorities have been wrong before (see GWB), but based on the <em>Christian</em> claims about God, one would think that He&#8217;d be more convincing in his &#8216;whole of revelation&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritualtramp.com/blog/2007/08/the-bible-and-its-importance/comment-page-1/#comment-1070</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I figure there&#039;s little sense in being anything other than as humble as you can be when talking about stuff like this.  I don&#039;t believe that any of us can get it all exactly right and the more folks that remember that then the more unity we&#039;re likely to have.  I can think of some fire breathing brethren whom I love dearly that would do well to remember that.
Hopefully I&#039;ll get some more up today.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I figure there&#8217;s little sense in being anything other than as humble as you can be when talking about stuff like this.  I don&#8217;t believe that any of us can get it all exactly right and the more folks that remember that then the more unity we&#8217;re likely to have.  I can think of some fire breathing brethren whom I love dearly that would do well to remember that.<br />
Hopefully I&#8217;ll get some more up today.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sensenig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Sensenig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,
I really appreciate your tone and spirit in all of this.  I look forward to engaging in some (what will hopefully be) fruitful dialogue about this.
I&#039;m looking forward to your thoughts and interacting with them.  I&#039;ll let you post some more of your thoughts, and then will likely write a responding post on my blog if you&#039;re cool with that.
This should be interesting and challenging for both of us.  Thanks for being game for it! :)
steve :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,<br />
I really appreciate your tone and spirit in all of this.  I look forward to engaging in some (what will hopefully be) fruitful dialogue about this.<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward to your thoughts and interacting with them.  I&#8217;ll let you post some more of your thoughts, and then will likely write a responding post on my blog if you&#8217;re cool with that.<br />
This should be interesting and challenging for both of us.  Thanks for being game for it! <img src='http://www.spiritualtramp.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
steve <img src='http://www.spiritualtramp.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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