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	<title>Comments on: Heath as the Joker</title>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritualtramp.com/blog/2007/05/heath-as-the-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 08:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t say for sure, but if you&#039;re Warners and you&#039;re investing anywhere between 100-200 mil on a summer tentpole production (including marketing, prints, etc.), I think the filmmaker will undoubtedly have to make some compromises at the end of the day.  Look at BATMAN BEGINS.  Like Ben and I were discussing briefly the other day, its 3rd Act just FEELS like it was noted to death by the studio&#039;s top brass (especially when you consider the first 2/3 of the film, and especially before you even see Bale in costume).  Speculation, of course.  But knowing Nolan&#039;s approach from his previous films (and the brilliant PRESTIGE), I wouldn&#039;t doubt this to be the case.
All that said, I&#039;m the biggest nerd for Batman and I really can&#039;t wait for this to hit.  It&#039;s got the potential, especially with Jonathan Nolan&#039;s involvement.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say for sure, but if you&#8217;re Warners and you&#8217;re investing anywhere between 100-200 mil on a summer tentpole production (including marketing, prints, etc.), I think the filmmaker will undoubtedly have to make some compromises at the end of the day.  Look at BATMAN BEGINS.  Like Ben and I were discussing briefly the other day, its 3rd Act just FEELS like it was noted to death by the studio&#8217;s top brass (especially when you consider the first 2/3 of the film, and especially before you even see Bale in costume).  Speculation, of course.  But knowing Nolan&#8217;s approach from his previous films (and the brilliant PRESTIGE), I wouldn&#8217;t doubt this to be the case.<br />
All that said, I&#8217;m the biggest nerd for Batman and I really can&#8217;t wait for this to hit.  It&#8217;s got the potential, especially with Jonathan Nolan&#8217;s involvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 06:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  Context is everythang.
What does &quot;total creative freedom&quot; look like here?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  Context is everythang.<br />
What does &#8220;total creative freedom&#8221; look like here?</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 03:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it.  But it&#039;s also just a single image with zero context, so I can&#039;t really say much more.  I do think that if there&#039;s one popular comic book hero that can go the &quot;dark&quot; route without being scoffed at as a 15 year old&#039;s delusionary idea of maturity, it&#039;s Batman.  Thing is, you need two things: a) a screenwriter of immense talent and b) a studio that&#039;s willing to give total creative freedom to its filmmakers.  One of those two things isn&#039;t a reality (despite whatever press you might hear to the contrary), especially when you have a brand that yields millions of dollars in ancillary products, mainly to kids.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it.  But it&#8217;s also just a single image with zero context, so I can&#8217;t really say much more.  I do think that if there&#8217;s one popular comic book hero that can go the &#8220;dark&#8221; route without being scoffed at as a 15 year old&#8217;s delusionary idea of maturity, it&#8217;s Batman.  Thing is, you need two things: a) a screenwriter of immense talent and b) a studio that&#8217;s willing to give total creative freedom to its filmmakers.  One of those two things isn&#8217;t a reality (despite whatever press you might hear to the contrary), especially when you have a brand that yields millions of dollars in ancillary products, mainly to kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 22:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know.  I&#039;m a fan of so many aspects.  Ledger, Nolan, the first flick.  All signs point to LOVE.  But something about it is just too &quot;on the nose&quot;.  It feels very Hot Topic to me.  Right now.  Once there&#039;s some context to it, that might make the difference.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;m a fan of so many aspects.  Ledger, Nolan, the first flick.  All signs point to LOVE.  But something about it is just too &#8220;on the nose&#8221;.  It feels very Hot Topic to me.  Right now.  Once there&#8217;s some context to it, that might make the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 19:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get what you&#039;re saying indeed.  When I was a lad there was a collection of short stories that was published all about the Joker.  I remember one that painted a picture of J that I would love to see here.  He was terrifying, an insane genius that still had a wicked sense of humor.  I need to find that book again and see if my memories are rose colored.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get what you&#8217;re saying indeed.  When I was a lad there was a collection of short stories that was published all about the Joker.  I remember one that painted a picture of J that I would love to see here.  He was terrifying, an insane genius that still had a wicked sense of humor.  I need to find that book again and see if my memories are rose colored.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 18:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of those &quot;darker, darker!&quot; fanboys, to the point that I end up pining for a Batman that&#039;s even darker than the Batman in the actual comics.  I gotta admit, I really like what they seem to be implying about the Joker in the next film:  Instead of  him being the &quot;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;CLOWN PRINCE&lt;/b&gt; Of Crime&lt;/i&gt;&quot; he&#039;s going to be the &quot;&lt;i&gt;Clown Prince Of &lt;b&gt;CRIME&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;,&quot; if you get my drift.  The guy is nuts, he &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be scary.  Nicholson was fun in the first Burton movie, but he wasn&#039;t really scary.  I can even warm up to the idea of Heath &quot;Brokeback&quot; Ledger in the role as long as it&#039;s written and directed properly, and I trust Nolan.  The guy hasn&#039;t done a bad film yet!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of those &#8220;darker, darker!&#8221; fanboys, to the point that I end up pining for a Batman that&#8217;s even darker than the Batman in the actual comics.  I gotta admit, I really like what they seem to be implying about the Joker in the next film:  Instead of  him being the &#8220;<i><b>CLOWN PRINCE</b> Of Crime</i>&#8221; he&#8217;s going to be the &#8220;<i>Clown Prince Of <b>CRIME</b></i>,&#8221; if you get my drift.  The guy is nuts, he <i>should</i> be scary.  Nicholson was fun in the first Burton movie, but he wasn&#8217;t really scary.  I can even warm up to the idea of Heath &#8220;Brokeback&#8221; Ledger in the role as long as it&#8217;s written and directed properly, and I trust Nolan.  The guy hasn&#8217;t done a bad film yet!</p>
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